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**** Increase number of readout channels
 
**** Increase number of readout channels
 
** Should we add/subtract scope from this group?
 
** Should we add/subtract scope from this group?
* Action Item
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* Assign writing task
** Assign writing task
+
** Hardware
 
*** Broadband RF technology (1.0 page)
 
*** Broadband RF technology (1.0 page)
 +
*** Hardware requirement on resolving power (1.0 page)
 +
** Background Material
 
*** Mapping speed (1.0 page)
 
*** Mapping speed (1.0 page)
 
*** Atmosphere (0.5 page)
 
*** Atmosphere (0.5 page)
 
*** Foreground (0.5 page)
 
*** Foreground (0.5 page)
*** Hardware requirement on resolving power (1.0 page)
+
 
 +
* Meeting Note
 +
** Participants: toki, clarence, mike, akito, bryan, jeff
 +
** we have additional detector systematics group (mike sent out lists of group)
 +
** what is trade off between total bandwidth
 +
** zeesh is leading readout group - discuss if combining detector (TES/MKID) into readout makes sense
 +
** trade off between too many / broader participation to be inclusive
 +
** contact XXX if you want to get involved
 +
** TES/MKID for readout group cause delay? - probably not
 +
** include Mike N. to readout group
 +
** send note to whole community - pass by john c. - send out note to whole s4 group
 +
** we are missing group to put whole thing together
 +
** how about 2-stage approach. we collect current state of technology for now. then optimize/tie together later
 +
** optimize/tie together to come after science book
 +
** re-name systematics group to systematics and system over view?
 +
** keeping systematics group shows that we are thinking about systematics and its mitigation
 +
** no body knows about what systamtics to worry about at CMB-S4 level
 +
** separate group's writing
 +
** how to select co-leader?
 +
** cryogenic receivers group does not exist (ask brad to lead?)
 +
** systematics group can suggest what simulation/study is necessary
 +
*** describe different experiment's approach to systematics
 +
*** summarize literature on analysis technique
 +
*** summarize experiment's approach
 +
 
 +
* Action Item
 +
** jeff to put together preamble and send out with mike n's list of groups
 +
** jeff to ask zeesh to agree on adding tes/mkid to readout
 +
** natural point
 +
*** sarah for horn
 +
*** sinuous lenslet
 +
*** roger phase-array
 +
** mapping speed/atm/foreground (background material)
 +
** next meeting in 2 weeks. maybe we'll get more participants. Toki's organize meeting (doodle, call invitation what not)
  
 
=== Meeting 01 and 02 note from google doc ===
 
=== Meeting 01 and 02 note from google doc ===
 
[[File:CMBS-4WhatresolvingpowerisdesirablepracticalMeeting0102.pdf]]
 
[[File:CMBS-4WhatresolvingpowerisdesirablepracticalMeeting0102.pdf]]

Revision as of 11:11, 16 June 2016

CMB S-4: Detector RF Design, Total Bandwidth, Resolving Power

Team:

Charge: Report back on range of frequency coverage and practical number of bands.

Meeting 03: 2016-06-16

  • Deliverable: White paper by next S-4 meeting in September (6 more meetings to go)
  • Generic goal:
    • Keep doors open - no down selection
    • Survey of current technology and development
    • Summarize necessary development for CMB-S4
    • Collect references
  • Scope/topics to address
    • Total bandwidth per feed
      • Broadband RF technology
        • Feed
        • RF circuit
      • Mapping speed
        • Diffraction
        • Cold stop and telescope temperature
        • Loss in optics (AR and lens material) and RF circuit line (choice of dielectric for ex)
    • Resolving Power
      • Need from foreground subtraction group
        • Just point to their write up
      • Atmospheric window
      • Hardware requirement
        • Finite area on silicon wafer
        • Increase number of readout channels
    • Should we add/subtract scope from this group?
  • Assign writing task
    • Hardware
      • Broadband RF technology (1.0 page)
      • Hardware requirement on resolving power (1.0 page)
    • Background Material
      • Mapping speed (1.0 page)
      • Atmosphere (0.5 page)
      • Foreground (0.5 page)
  • Meeting Note
    • Participants: toki, clarence, mike, akito, bryan, jeff
    • we have additional detector systematics group (mike sent out lists of group)
    • what is trade off between total bandwidth
    • zeesh is leading readout group - discuss if combining detector (TES/MKID) into readout makes sense
    • trade off between too many / broader participation to be inclusive
    • contact XXX if you want to get involved
    • TES/MKID for readout group cause delay? - probably not
    • include Mike N. to readout group
    • send note to whole community - pass by john c. - send out note to whole s4 group
    • we are missing group to put whole thing together
    • how about 2-stage approach. we collect current state of technology for now. then optimize/tie together later
    • optimize/tie together to come after science book
    • re-name systematics group to systematics and system over view?
    • keeping systematics group shows that we are thinking about systematics and its mitigation
    • no body knows about what systamtics to worry about at CMB-S4 level
    • separate group's writing
    • how to select co-leader?
    • cryogenic receivers group does not exist (ask brad to lead?)
    • systematics group can suggest what simulation/study is necessary
      • describe different experiment's approach to systematics
      • summarize literature on analysis technique
      • summarize experiment's approach
  • Action Item
    • jeff to put together preamble and send out with mike n's list of groups
    • jeff to ask zeesh to agree on adding tes/mkid to readout
    • natural point
      • sarah for horn
      • sinuous lenslet
      • roger phase-array
    • mapping speed/atm/foreground (background material)
    • next meeting in 2 weeks. maybe we'll get more participants. Toki's organize meeting (doodle, call invitation what not)

Meeting 01 and 02 note from google doc

File:CMBS-4WhatresolvingpowerisdesirablepracticalMeeting0102.pdf