Harvard-2017:T3
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Parallel Session T3: Sim WG: sky modeling, component separation and lensing reconstruction(Chair: Blake Sherwin) [Jefferson 256]
Summary: File:S4Review.pdf [Session summary]
See draft schedule below. (post talks here)
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Part 1 (20 mins) - Sky Modeling and Component Separation (moderated by Raphael, Blake may help with discussion)
- Update on recent work in sky modeling / component separation (~10 mins, Raphael)
- Discussion: open questions and (in particular) what are the next steps? (~10 mins, Raphael)
Part 2 (20 mins) - Lensing (moderated by Blake)
Short updates / talks about recent work with lots of discussion:
- auto / delensing foreground bias estimation (5 mins slides + 3 mins discussion, Alex) File:S4 lensing foregrounds alex aug2014.key.pdf
- small scale frequency cleaning / optimization (2+2 mins, Colin H.) [PDF]
- simulating delensing pipelines / delensing templates (brief update 2+2 mins, Kyle) [PDF]
- Discussion: what should we work on next? (4 mins on future work, Blake)
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Some suggested discussion topics:
- All subjects: what are next steps for the group in i) sky modeling ii) component separation iii) lensing bias estimation iv) high-ell foreground cleaning and optimization v) delensing simulation
- FG modeling / cleaning: would realistic levels of decorrelation (or other effects) substantially change the optimization? What is enough complexity in foreground modeling? Can we get more data?
- Lensing, biases: what is the current take-home, how can we converge?
- Lensing cleaning, optimization: is current cleaning too conservative? How can we decide on frequency requirements?
- Lensing, delensing sims: issues and challenges, quadratic and max like?
- All topics (discussion at end): For next steps, what are our highest priorities?
Notes from session
Note-taker: Jason Henning
Notes for Foreground section:
- Foregrounds dominate everywhere by orders of magnitude
- Model YY=00
- (not physical) model to validate Fisher forecasts in Science book with dust and sync with levels set by BICEP patch.
- Multi-realization.
- Gaussian realizations.
- Model YY=01, 02, 03
- contain instrument noise
- limited resolution
- assumed spectral dependence
- (Different flavors of PySM)
- differ by freq dependence of dust and sync, and AME
- All models lead to small foreground residuals for S4 strawperson design
- ~ order of magnitude under signal.
- Partly due to high correlation between freq.
- ILC prescription for foreground removal.
- BICEP hasn’t achieved same residuals as Raphael.
- Raphael’s model just requires maps to be properly calibrated to T_cmb.
- ~ order of magnitude under signal.
- Model YY=04
- Ghosh, et al 1611.02418
- based on GASS HI data
- designed for larger decorrelation between freq.
- Model YY=05
- toy model with even more decorrelation
- Models Y=04,05 lea to increase in sigma(r) of ~ 2 and bias for Raphael
- Bias is ~ size of signal we’re trying to reconstruct.
- Discussion about how much decorrelation we need to account for and how to model it.
- Victor’s framework still wants large freq separation.
- Model YY=06
- Based on MHD
- assumes constant dust-to-gas ratio
- assume energy spectrum of electrons for synchrotron.
- Reproduces E/B ratios.
- Limited to small patches.
- CP and RF disagree about how much this model would over-estimate correlation between dust and synchrotron at high Galactic latitude.
- Resolution not good enough for use with lensing as well (sims don’t resolve turbulence).
- Two sources of decorrelation
- spatial variation of spectral index allowed by Planck.
- line-of-sight effects
- decorrelation between freq in dust is small.
- Two sources of decorrelation
- What is the expected level of decorrelation???
- We need sims to understand how we address decorrelation!!
- We need models that address degree scales and needs of delensing survey simultaneously.
- No non-forced sims have been able to show large decorrelation.
Next-steps
- Add decorrelation into sims, more data, integrate high/low-ell sims.
- Test closely-spaced freqs
Alex
- NG-Foregrounds
- Models for small-scale pol dust
- Each gives different amount of BB power (while TT is tight).
- Dust causes NG in lensing map.
- So far no bias to lensing auto-spectra for the best 5% of sky for Vansyngel+ sims
- 40% of sky there’s 1% bias in TT lensing, but still nothing in polarization. Comforting, but only as good as the sims.
- Models for small-scale pol dust
- Planck FFP8 sims (Challinor, Allison++2017)
- Big bias (17% in TT, 62% in EBxEB)
- Can downweight dusty areas and reduce bias in A_L from EBxEB (TT bias still there).
- How does NG of dust impact delensing?
- No average bias, but a lot of patch-patch scatter.
- Planck FFP8 sims (Challinor, Allison++2017)
- Takeways:
- TT is biased from dust.
- Polarization has bias that can be removed with downweighting (assuming uniform power over patches).
- No evidence that we do not need dust and synch channels for high-ell survey.
- Can we extend this to multi-freq?
- How much do we trust freq decoherence in sims?
Colin Hill (Component Separation)
- Simulated T maps
- Missing small-scale Galac synch and AME.
- All components properly correlated.
- Simulated P maos
- Constrained ICL
- specifically project out whatever components you want.
- Variance in final map larger since dof used.
- If foregrounds are lower than noise floor ILC won’t pick them out but they can still bias lensing.
- CP: Why aren’t we using these sims for low-ell forecasts as well?
Kyle Story (Lensed B-mode template)
- “B-truth”: the best we could ever do
- Leads to 99.9% delensing.
- Quadratic estimator achieves ~ 90% delensing.
- Next steps
- Run these templates through r-estimation.
- Add non-idealities to these maps?
- Incorporate multi-freq, cleaned maps into pipeline.
- LK: Investigating map-based delensing algorithms beyond QE is high-priority.
- Move onto ML estimators.
- Marius Millea
- Starting to look at beyond QE delensing (1708.06753)
Action items/Next steps
Summarize action items here